Im not that excited about the movie, though Im absolutely certain we’ll go see it, but I am rather excited about the rather crappy toys that are coming out. Im hoping to score the bridge and some figures at TRU tomorrow
Well, I’m one of the Old Guard who dates back to the original series, and I’m also an oddball in that I’m a big fan of DS9. I don’t have too much problem with the reboot/new timeline--when you’ve read DC as long as I have, you sort of have to get used to reboots. I’m very excited about the new movie, especially with Zach Quinto as the young Spock. The franchise has to adapt to changing audience tastes, otherwise it becomes a passe exercise in nostalgia. They understood this with Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who, and their reboots were done well. (Well, they understood that with Lost in Space, too--which goes to show that reboots only work if they’re done well by creators who understand what worked to begin with.)
Anyway, I’m taking that day off from work (with my boss’ blessing) to take in the first matinee.
I loved DS9 as well. I just hope the new film makes sense and is worth it. I bought some of the action figures from the new movie and they’re kinda cool. Unfortunately, to me, the Original Spock looks like the Leonard Nemoy head from Futurama. It looks just like him, but with a Groening twist. I feel like at any second he’s going to come to life and make some joke about William Shatner’s hair piece or his horrible acting abilities.
Well, I’m a pretty hardcore old-time fan, and despite Sooner’s diss, I have to say that this IS a Star Trek movie, and the best since First Contact. It’s a great reboot, with the optimism about the future so crucial to the Trek sensibility intact. The cast was impeccable. Was it a perfect movie? No, of course not--no such creature exists. But it’s exactly what we--and the franchise--needed.
Well, we all must respect diversity of opinion on matters as personal as art and entertainment. Nothing is universally beloved in the world of entertainment--there are even people out there who don’t care for Oz (either with or without the Wizard).
I admire all the opinions so far. I’ve been a fan for a long time and know it’s such passion that has kept the lore alive as long as it’s been going. I harken back to a time when some friends and I (all Trekkies) were discussing Enterprise when it came out. Not all love for it, but show me a shirtless Trip Tucker and I’m sold. That being said I know the movie wasn’t for everyone, but given the mission to alter the timeline into making us believe this is the all new adventures of the crew as a new Trek, I can buy it. I mean they completely wiped the slate clean so to speak and tied it all up with the nice bow of Nemoy passing the torch on screen. In that regard, it gives Abrams carte blanche to do whatever he wants for future films. Essentially everything we’ve known as Trek has been acknowledged and dismissed in one movie. I may not like it but it was a neatly executed transition. I have to side with Sooner that it didn’t feel like Trek in the way that we are used to seeing it and the tone was very high action. The movie could have used more Starfleet exposition. As it was presented, it looks like Starfleet is just the military arm of the galaxy and it is so much more than that. It’s about peaceful exploration, which included some of the phaser fights and empire struggles. This movie leaves you up in the air as to what the new continuity is all about. I liked the movie though, and am so glad it unseated the abomination that is Wolverine as the box office champ.
Also to add to the farewell to old Trek so to speak, the history channel did a special on Star Trek and it’s history, culminating in the Christie’s auction for all the props, ships, and wardrobe for the shows and movies. They did this a few years ago after Nemesis b/c even Shinzon’s suit was auctioned. My fave Enterprise-D went for $500K!! Wow! I’d love that in my dining room. It would be in scale with the mini-figures from the playsets back in 1997.
I feel your pain man. I was exposed to the original series in the womb and it just kept going. The kids used to call me Spock in school. I was such a nerd. I was too young to watch the first movie but got to see all the others and the original series in re-runs. I was constantly getting in trouble for staying up and hiding in the hallway to watch Star Trek when I was supposed to be asleep. Go to bed, I’d hear, but I’d pop off, but then I don’t know what’s going to happen to everybody. Not your typical fare for a 6 year old but I was hooked.
Not that I don’t accept that Sooner is entitled to his opinion, it just seems kind of fanboyishly peevish; it’s like saying “The only real Fantastic Four is Stan and Jack’s--and everyone else’s version is completely dismissable and without merit.” Which is completely unfair to subsequent creators. If someone wants to consider the Trek franchise dead in their eyes, so be it--but things change and evolve, and people need to learn to, if not accept it, then at least not resent it.
That being said I know the movie wasn’t for everyone, but given the mission to alter the timeline into making us believe this is the all new adventures of the crew as a new Trek, I can buy it. I mean they completely wiped the slate clean so to speak and tied it all up with the nice bow of Nemoy passing the torch on screen. In that regard, it gives Abrams carte blanche to do whatever he wants for future films. Essentially everything we’ve known as Trek has been acknowledged and dismissed in one movie. I may not like it but it was a neatly executed transition. I have to side with Sooner that it didn’t feel like Trek in the way that we are used to seeing it and the tone was very high action. The movie could have used more Starfleet exposition. As it was presented, it looks like Starfleet is just the military arm of the galaxy and it is so much more than that. It’s about peaceful exploration, which included some of the phaser fights and empire struggles. This movie leaves you up in the air as to what the new continuity is all about. I liked the movie though, and am so glad it unseated the abomination that is Wolverine as the box office champ.
