AnimateTed - 07 June 2008 12:29 PM
Whiz Kid - 26 May 2008 04:36 AM
Honestly, I’ve heard a lot (A LOT) of the complaints and such about the Hasbro figures… and I just don’t get it. I honestly have yet to see a single figure from them that failed that wasn’t also comparable to a Toy Biz figure.)
Really?
How about the Fantastic 4 wave with that craptasticly small Thing with… hello.. NO PAINT WASH!?
You mean the Thing that’s actually in scale to be 6’ tall, not 8’ like TB’s ML2 Thing? How about TB’s First Appearance Thing? That was one… um, awesome figure. By ‘awesome’, I mean ‘looks like a pine cone, because the figure is NOT based on his first appearance, but on a retelling of it that no one cared about.’
And frankly, while I realize this is a strictly personal opinion (as the original quoted statement is), I could give two bits about paint washes in virtually any toyline. Most of the time I think they look horrid and ‘dirty up’ a figure (Sentinel series Cyclops)... but again, that’s me.
and while we’re there, the invisible woman with those ridiculous arms,
You do realize that most fans complained about the ‘spinning meat’ arms that the early TB females had, right? Complaints about the female form in ML have been there since the beginning… well, since Elektra, anyway.
and the Johnny Storm with the terrible face,
As opposed to the spindly ML2 one from Toy Biz…
or Namor with that awful flesh airbrushing. :-(
Toy Biz’ idea of Magneto was Iron Man in a diaper. I’ll grant this one isn’t really comparable, just something that has bugged me for years.
And the irony about complaining about no washes, then complaining about airbrushing, has not escaped me.
The best thing about that line was the great Mr. Fantastic, and Ronan the Accuser.
I heart that Mr. Fantastic. It’s the Reed Richards figure I’ve wanted since I was eight!
But on the regular waves of MArvel Legends, you have to look NO further than the flagship figure - Ultimate Wolverine. Ugh, his face looks like it was caught in a vice!
Have you SEEN the ML3 Wolverine? I mean, in person? While we’re at it, how ‘bout that AoA Wolverine from the Giant Man series- he’s a real ‘winner’. Need I actually mention that nearly all the Wolverines made by both companies to make Marvel Legends have been ridiculously out of scale?
And White Queen?!? Hello little head!
Two words: Scarlet Witch.
standing them along side in my collection you can spot the Hasbro ones easily. They are smaller, less detailed, horribly painted and disappointing all around.
Smaller? You say that like Toy Biz ever had any concept of ‘scale’. Less detailed? That’s a personal opinion, I think. Horribly painted… I don’t get that one at all, and I’m going to have to default to ‘personal opinion’ again, especially given my ‘paint by number, the lines mean nothing’ variant Falcon.
How about that Young Avengers set that only works as an issue #1 lineup (and do you recall the complaints about Iron Lad’s articulation)? Have you ever handled the awful series 5 Red Skull? WTF is up with Bishop? Could AoA Sabretooth have sucked any more? I didn’t have an issue with it, but do you have any idea how reviled Mandarin was by the collective fandom?
I love Marvel Legends, don’t get me wrong. I adore the line. However, you can go through it wave by wave and just tear it apart if you really wanted to, from Toy Biz wave 1 right up to the current Hasbro offering. That’s the only point I’m trying to make: Neither company was perfect. Toy Biz made TONS of mistakes and bad decisions that fans berated them up and down for (Ultron), but it seems that Hasbro is held to different (and often impossible) standards when fans see similar (or the very same) mistakes.
It’s not that I don’t see Hasbro’s mistakes, I just don’t see anything new in those mistakes that offends me any more than the ones Toy Biz made.