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Posted: 28 April 2008 08:18 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I am sort of excited about these guys, they seem to have taken over most of the available wallspace in my room.

Although I have to admit, Cat Beast was a new one on me.  I had no idea that he was in the next lineup of the Legends.

Looking ahead a bit I can see that I am lukewarm about the upcoming Hulk Legends line, that will tie in with the movie release this summer.  I mean a Doc Sampson and Absorbing Man are great, and who does not love Weindigo?  But who the hell is Son of the Hulk?  And Final Hulk?  And we already got a Planet Hulk figure didn’t we?  Another She-Hulk figure is well eeh.  I would have liked to see an Amadeus Cho figure.

the build-a-figure is one that I have been hoping for ever since they started coming out, Fin-Fang-Foom, and he’s not wearing his stupid purple pants this time.  JOY!

The two packs coming up have a second Nick Fury figure and a nameless Shield Agent.
Also are Ronin and Elecktra packs, with what looks to be a variant Skrull Elektra,
Wolverine and Forge in their 90’s everyone wears the same costume look,
A Super Skrull and Captain Marvel in his Kree Uniform (Or it just could be a Kree Soldier)

I was sort of suprised that there is not a Marvel Legends Iron Man line, but that there are the movie toys you can get.  Most of them are skippable, as I do not want to run around collecting each paint job that is in a different store.  From what I can see Wal-Mart has the Black and Silver Iron Man figures and Target has the Red and silver ones.  The two toys in the line that are appealing to me are Atomic Man, and the Iron Monger.

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Posted: 28 April 2008 09:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I’ve all but lost interest in Marvel Legends since Hasbro took them on.
I want to like them, but I can’t. Theyre awful..
They also arent coming as hard and fast as they were and I’d not be surprised to see the line end entirely before long.
My interest is more on the DCU now, even though Im not really familiar with most of the characters, the figures are very, very nice..

I did just pick up a ton of Psylockes for 1.50 each from wal mart though, so am hoping to make some decent female customs to plug some gaps at some point.

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Posted: 28 April 2008 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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And see that’s the odd thing, to me the Hasbro Legend female figures are much better looking than those spindely, stick-armed Toy Biz ones.

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Posted: 28 April 2008 01:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Psylocke was pretty good. Better than Emma Frost by a long shot.
I can understand some like the Marvel Girl, but I wasn’t keen on the star wars style articulation. works great for SW figures, but looks like a whole other toy line against ML’s.

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Posted: 01 May 2008 09:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I don’t think the Tigra wave is out yet. The Hasbro Legends seem to get later all the time. I don’t think retailers are that fussed about carrying them anymore so theyre probably more concerned with other lines.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hasbros Legends die after another few waves..
We’ll probably just see the usual Spiderman/Hulk/Iron man type waves every now and again. Which is a shame.

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Posted: 02 May 2008 03:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Molarlion - 01 May 2008 11:54 PM

the Nemesis baf wave which is now a WalMart exclusive wave set for December ‘08 (they said this at NYCC08 according to marvelousnews)

Ahhhh
Oh well thats buggered my order from play.com then..
I think I’m about done with Marvel Legends, its just getting too hard to get the very few decent ones that are coming out.

I missed the protos. what site were they on?

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Posted: 22 May 2008 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I stopped collecting the Marvel Legends, but a lot of the reason is that I haven’t even seen them in stores for like 5 months. Seriously, I haven’t seen a new wave of anything for a while. I don’t know if it’s just cause nothing has been shipped or Miami is just being ignored. The last legend that i think I bought was the Domino/Cannonball 2 pack.

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Posted: 22 May 2008 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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GayComicGeek - 22 May 2008 12:32 PM

I stopped collecting the Marvel Legends, but a lot of the reason is that I haven’t even seen them in stores for like 5 months. Seriously, I haven’t seen a new wave of anything for a while. I don’t know if it’s just cause nothing has been shipped or Miami is just being ignored. The last legend that i think I bought was the Domino/Cannonball 2 pack.

Did you get the Blob series? I think theres only been the Fantastic Four and the Brood series since then?
Amazingly the Blob series showed up in the UK at ‘The Entertainer for £5 and buy one get one free, when the previous wave had been £10 each and they wondered why no one bought any..
I’d be really surprised to see anything else show up. I think ML is finished in the UK, which is a shame because the Hulk line looks much nicer than the awful movie figures that have shown up.

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Posted: 26 May 2008 04:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Honestly, I’ve heard a lot (A LOT) of the complaints and such about the Hasbro figures… and I just don’t get it. I honestly have yet to see a single figure from them that failed that wasn’t also comparable to a Toy Biz figure. I’m not saying Hesbro doesn’t have issues, and that they don’t need to fix anything, just that there’s already such drastic changes as you go through the years in the TB figures alone that singling out the Hasbro ones as being so different and/or awful leaves me scratching my head.

Hasbro seems to be making admissions that they’ve made some mistakes, as well as a genuine effort to step things up. I’m not nuts about getting a year’s worth of product in the back-end of a year, but there does appear to be some pretty awesome stuff in the pipeline. It’s really going to be in whether or not they deliver on the promises this year and what they have in store for next year that’s going to decide what happens next.

That being said, I think the DCUC figures are pretty slick. I hope/think Hasbro has been paying a bit of attention to the excitement those are generating.

Molarlion - 01 May 2008 11:54 PM

How did you guys like those prototypes they had people vote on recently?  The Northstar, Aurora, and Classic Storm figures looked AMAZING.. i can’t believe they couldn’t find a way to work those into a wave.  I can’t remember which one was chosen for production but i know i was disappointed.

Age of Apocalypse Sunfire. He’s up at hasbrotoyshop.com right now. I was hoping for Magneto… we haven’t had a decent comic-based Magneto since Toy Biz did him waaaaay back in ML3, and that figure was just a remold of Iron Man wearing a diaper- I simply cannot hate it more.

Molarlion - 28 April 2008 08:33 PM

I think the 1st hasbro She-hulk is the best marvel legends female to come out so far.. body-wise.  I read that her body was a retooled X-Men Classic Rogue.

Actually, it was a retooling of the LCBH Ann O’Brien figure. Shulkie is WAY too huge to be an appropriate Rogue! smile

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Posted: 28 May 2008 08:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I stopped collecting the Marvel Legends, but a lot of the reason is that I haven’t even seen them in stores for like 5 months. Seriously, I haven’t seen a new wave of anything for a while. I don’t know if it’s just cause nothing has been shipped or Miami is just being ignored. The last legend that i think I bought was the Domino/Cannonball 2 pack.

Did you get the Blob series? I think theres only been the Fantastic Four and the Brood series since then?
Amazingly the Blob series showed up in the UK at ‘The Entertainer for £5 and buy one get one free, when the previous wave had been £10 each and they wondered why no one bought any..
I’d be really surprised to see anything else show up. I think ML is finished in the UK, which is a shame because the Hulk line looks much nicer than the awful movie figures that have shown up.

I got some of the Blob series, but that was it. I heard that the FF was out at one point in a Walmart near me, but i never got it. I never saw the Brood series either. I bought Marvel Girl on Ebay, but that’s it. I hope that I’ll eventually see some of the newer series, but I’m not gonna go out of my way to find them. I will look for the DC line for the Grodd BAF, but that’s it.

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Posted: 30 May 2008 05:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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GayComicGeek - 28 May 2008 08:53 AM

I will look for the DC line for the Grodd BAF, but that’s it.

I’m off to Forbidden Planet tomorrow since theyve finally got them on the website theyve gotta have some in one of their megastores surely.. *fingers crossed* I’m expecting to be disapointed and have to order online yet again..

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Posted: 07 June 2008 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Whiz Kid - 26 May 2008 04:36 AM

Honestly, I’ve heard a lot (A LOT) of the complaints and such about the Hasbro figures… and I just don’t get it. I honestly have yet to see a single figure from them that failed that wasn’t also comparable to a Toy Biz figure.)

Really?

How about the Fantastic 4 wave with that craptasticly small Thing with… hello.. NO PAINT WASH!?
and while we’re there, the invisible woman with those ridiculous arms, and the Johnny Storm with the terrible face, or Namor with that awful flesh airbrushing. :-(  The best thing about that line was the great Mr. Fantastic, and Ronan the Accuser.

But on the regular waves of MArvel Legends, you have to look NO further than the flagship figure - Ultimate Wolverine.  Ugh, his face looks like it was caught in a vice!  And White Queen?!? Hello little head!  standing them along side in my collection you can spot the Hasbro ones easily.  They are smaller, less detailed, horribly painted and disappointing all around.

>sigh<  But I still buy them.

That said, I think Mattel nailed it with DCU Classics.  They are flawless in my book.  The female figures (while spindly, yes) are ALL IN SCALE!  (Unlike Black Widow DWARFING Emma Frost)
They have married the appropriate level of articulation with phenomenal sculpts and GREAT paint jobs (Red Tornado exception).
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Posted: 07 June 2008 05:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Honestly, I’ve heard a lot (A LOT) of the complaints and such about the Hasbro figures… and I just don’t get it. I honestly have yet to see a single figure from them that failed that wasn’t also comparable to a Toy Biz figure.)

Really?

How about the Fantastic 4 wave with that craptasticly small Thing with… hello.. NO PAINT WASH!?

You mean the Thing that’s actually in scale to be 6’ tall, not 8’ like TB’s ML2 Thing? How about TB’s First Appearance Thing? That was one… um, awesome figure. By ‘awesome’, I mean ‘looks like a pine cone, because the figure is NOT based on his first appearance, but on a retelling of it that no one cared about.’

And frankly, while I realize this is a strictly personal opinion (as the original quoted statement is), I could give two bits about paint washes in virtually any toyline. Most of the time I think they look horrid and ‘dirty up’ a figure (Sentinel series Cyclops)... but again, that’s me.

and while we’re there, the invisible woman with those ridiculous arms,

You do realize that most fans complained about the ‘spinning meat’ arms that the early TB females had, right? Complaints about the female form in ML have been there since the beginning… well, since Elektra, anyway.

and the Johnny Storm with the terrible face,

As opposed to the spindly ML2 one from Toy Biz…

or Namor with that awful flesh airbrushing. :-(

Toy Biz’ idea of Magneto was Iron Man in a diaper. I’ll grant this one isn’t really comparable, just something that has bugged me for years.

And the irony about complaining about no washes, then complaining about airbrushing, has not escaped me.

The best thing about that line was the great Mr. Fantastic, and Ronan the Accuser.

I heart that Mr. Fantastic. It’s the Reed Richards figure I’ve wanted since I was eight!

But on the regular waves of MArvel Legends, you have to look NO further than the flagship figure - Ultimate Wolverine.  Ugh, his face looks like it was caught in a vice!

Have you SEEN the ML3 Wolverine? I mean, in person? While we’re at it, how ‘bout that AoA Wolverine from the Giant Man series- he’s a real ‘winner’. Need I actually mention that nearly all the Wolverines made by both companies to make Marvel Legends have been ridiculously out of scale?

And White Queen?!? Hello little head!

Two words: Scarlet Witch.

standing them along side in my collection you can spot the Hasbro ones easily.  They are smaller, less detailed, horribly painted and disappointing all around.

Smaller? You say that like Toy Biz ever had any concept of ‘scale’. Less detailed? That’s a personal opinion, I think. Horribly painted… I don’t get that one at all, and I’m going to have to default to ‘personal opinion’ again, especially given my ‘paint by number, the lines mean nothing’ variant Falcon.

How about that Young Avengers set that only works as an issue #1 lineup (and do you recall the complaints about Iron Lad’s articulation)? Have you ever handled the awful series 5 Red Skull? WTF is up with Bishop? Could AoA Sabretooth have sucked any more? I didn’t have an issue with it, but do you have any idea how reviled Mandarin was by the collective fandom?

I love Marvel Legends, don’t get me wrong. I adore the line. However, you can go through it wave by wave and just tear it apart if you really wanted to, from Toy Biz wave 1 right up to the current Hasbro offering. That’s the only point I’m trying to make: Neither company was perfect. Toy Biz made TONS of mistakes and bad decisions that fans berated them up and down for (Ultron), but it seems that Hasbro is held to different (and often impossible) standards when fans see similar (or the very same) mistakes.

It’s not that I don’t see Hasbro’s mistakes, I just don’t see anything new in those mistakes that offends me any more than the ones Toy Biz made.

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Posted: 08 June 2008 12:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Whiz Kid - 26 May 2008 04:36 AM

Honestly, I’ve heard a lot (A LOT) of the complaints and such about the Hasbro figures… and I just don’t get it. I honestly have yet to see a single figure from them that failed that wasn’t also comparable to a Toy Biz figure.)

Really?

How about the Fantastic 4 wave with that craptasticly small Thing with… hello.. NO PAINT WASH!?

You mean the Thing that’s actually in scale to be 6’ tall, not 8’ like TB’s ML2 Thing? How about TB’s First Appearance Thing? That was one… um, awesome figure. By ‘awesome’, I mean ‘looks like a pine cone, because the figure is NOT based on his first appearance, but on a retelling of it that no one cared about.’

And frankly, while I realize this is a strictly personal opinion (as the original quoted statement is), I could give two bits about paint washes in virtually any toyline. Most of the time I think they look horrid and ‘dirty up’ a figure (Sentinel series Cyclops)... but again, that’s me.

and while we’re there, the invisible woman with those ridiculous arms,

You do realize that most fans complained about the ‘spinning meat’ arms that the early TB females had, right? Complaints about the female form in ML have been there since the beginning… well, since Elektra, anyway.

and the Johnny Storm with the terrible face,

As opposed to the spindly ML2 one from Toy Biz…

or Namor with that awful flesh airbrushing. :-(

Toy Biz’ idea of Magneto was Iron Man in a diaper. I’ll grant this one isn’t really comparable, just something that has bugged me for years.

And the irony about complaining about no washes, then complaining about airbrushing, has not escaped me.

The best thing about that line was the great Mr. Fantastic, and Ronan the Accuser.

I heart that Mr. Fantastic. It’s the Reed Richards figure I’ve wanted since I was eight!

But on the regular waves of MArvel Legends, you have to look NO further than the flagship figure - Ultimate Wolverine.  Ugh, his face looks like it was caught in a vice!

Have you SEEN the ML3 Wolverine? I mean, in person? While we’re at it, how ‘bout that AoA Wolverine from the Giant Man series- he’s a real ‘winner’. Need I actually mention that nearly all the Wolverines made by both companies to make Marvel Legends have been ridiculously out of scale?

And White Queen?!? Hello little head!

Two words: Scarlet Witch.

standing them along side in my collection you can spot the Hasbro ones easily.  They are smaller, less detailed, horribly painted and disappointing all around.

Smaller? You say that like Toy Biz ever had any concept of ‘scale’. Less detailed? That’s a personal opinion, I think. Horribly painted… I don’t get that one at all, and I’m going to have to default to ‘personal opinion’ again, especially given my ‘paint by number, the lines mean nothing’ variant Falcon.

How about that Young Avengers set that only works as an issue #1 lineup (and do you recall the complaints about Iron Lad’s articulation)? Have you ever handled the awful series 5 Red Skull? WTF is up with Bishop? Could AoA Sabretooth have sucked any more? I didn’t have an issue with it, but do you have any idea how reviled Mandarin was by the collective fandom?

I love Marvel Legends, don’t get me wrong. I adore the line. However, you can go through it wave by wave and just tear it apart if you really wanted to, from Toy Biz wave 1 right up to the current Hasbro offering. That’s the only point I’m trying to make: Neither company was perfect. Toy Biz made TONS of mistakes and bad decisions that fans berated them up and down for (Ultron), but it seems that Hasbro is held to different (and often impossible) standards when fans see similar (or the very same) mistakes.

It’s not that I don’t see Hasbro’s mistakes, I just don’t see anything new in those mistakes that offends me any more than the ones Toy Biz made.

LOL.. Touche’ 
On All points.  You did bring up all of the figures that stay in storage.  I do love the Brown Wolverine that toy biz made… he’s perfect though! 

But yes, Toy Biz had dozens of problems as well.  I hate that TB figures are all limp and fall over.  I do think that while a wash on something like the Thing (because he’s rock) makes sense, sometimes TB got out of hand with the washes and the dry brushing.  I have EVERY single Marvel Legends figure, from both companies, including variants (with 3 exceptions - Stealth Iron Man, Cable, and The variant Mandarin from the 2 pack).  And I have to say… Overall as a toy line - THEY ALL SUCK!  LOL!  I could pick apart that line like a cheater with a Rubiks Cube.  But I never knew they sucked till Mattel hit with DC Classics.  I was just so happy to have characters like an 18” Giant man, or Ms Marvel, or Mr. Sinister and have them be so detailed and well designed, I didn’t care.  But you brought up a good point, for all the mess ups Hasbro has, TOYBiz has their equivalent.  wink

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Posted: 09 June 2008 05:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I still maintain that overall Toy Biz did them much better. I don’t like the new articulation on ML’s since it makes them not fit in so well with the others.
On a seperate toyline, it’d be good. I like it on Star wars figures. Theyre great.

I do think Mattel and the 4HM have perfected it with their more hidden articulation. The way they do the hip joints without ball joints is inspired.

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Posted: 01 November 2008 09:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I’ve been collecting them since the early Toy Biz lines (magneto was my first) my I got rid of them as Hasbro started to produce them, Lord, they got worse at each release…

I even made a website for them, which is not kind of abandoned since I don’t upload any new images and nobody send me stuff that fits… take a look i you’re in the mood:

http://www.mlcovers.com

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